Eve de Clavering

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*[http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.medieval/browse_thread/thread/ebe335ee02450305/1b59cd63de4bbc2a?lnk=raot#1b59cd63de4bbc2a Here] Douglas Richardson citing ''The History and Antiquities of the County of Suffolk'', by the Rev. Alfred Suckling, LL.B., Vollume II, published 1848.  "He lists the following presentations to Blythborough [sic], Suffolk on page 161: 1. Alexander de Donewico presented in 1310 by John Claveryng, Knt., et Abbas, et Conv. St. Osyth. 2. Nicholas de Daggeworth presented in 1332 by Eve de Audley et Conv. 3. Walter de Hausted presented in 1371 by Sir Ed. Ufford, Knt., et Conv...."
 
*[http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.medieval/browse_thread/thread/ebe335ee02450305/1b59cd63de4bbc2a?lnk=raot#1b59cd63de4bbc2a Here] Douglas Richardson citing ''The History and Antiquities of the County of Suffolk'', by the Rev. Alfred Suckling, LL.B., Vollume II, published 1848.  "He lists the following presentations to Blythborough [sic], Suffolk on page 161: 1. Alexander de Donewico presented in 1310 by John Claveryng, Knt., et Abbas, et Conv. St. Osyth. 2. Nicholas de Daggeworth presented in 1332 by Eve de Audley et Conv. 3. Walter de Hausted presented in 1371 by Sir Ed. Ufford, Knt., et Conv...."
  
*[http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.medieval/msg/540b60995834ac19 Here], Rosie Bevan states "The 1319 deed bears closer examination. While Mr Richardson has  
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*[http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.medieval/msg/540b60995834ac19 Here], Rosie Bevan states "The 1319 deed bears closer examination. While Mr Richardson has glossed over it, saying it is [an] indication that they had married by that time,  the evidence shows otherwise. There were actually two deeds - one dated 1 November 1319 and the other dated 11 November 1319. The one dated 1 November was a deed of James de Audley leasing the third part of the manor of Cold Norton, Eve's dower, to Peter de Giffard for an annual rent of £23 6s 8d.,  
glossed over it, saying it is indication that they had married by that time,  the evidence shows otherwise. There were actually two deeds - one dated 1 November 1319 and the other dated 11 November 1319. The one dated 1 November was a deed of James de Audley leasing the third part of the manor of Cold Norton, Eve's dower, to Peter de Giffard for an annual rent of £23 6s 8d.,  
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"...covent entre Sir James Daudeleye de une parte et Sir Piers Giffard de autre part, cest-a-savoir que le dit Sir James par cest escrit ad grante et a ferme lesse au dit Sir Piers la tierce partie du maner de Coldenorton ove tous les appurtenaunces saunt rein retenir en le Countee de Estafford le quel le dite Sir James ad du donn dame Eve Doufford a terme de la vie la dite dame Eve a avoir le tenir la tierce partie du maner susdit ove les appurtenaunces a le avaunt dit Sir Piers, ses heirs et ses assignes del dit Sir James a terme de la vie la dite dame Eve. Rendaunt pures chescun an a dit Sir James vint trois livres siz soutz vyt deners desterlings a deux termes etc E si aveigne qe le dit Sir James devie. (No witnesses.) (1st November, 1319)" [NCHS, Vol. 5, p. 224]  
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*"...covent entre Sir James Daudeleye de une parte et Sir Piers Giffard de autre part, cest-a-savoir que le dit Sir James par cest escrit ad grante et a ferme lesse au dit Sir Piers la tierce partie du maner de Coldenorton ove tous les appurtenaunces saunt rein retenir en le Countee de Estafford le quel le dite Sir James ad du donn dame Eve Doufford a terme de la vie la dite dame Eve a avoir le tenir la tierce partie du maner susdit ove les appurtenaunces a le avaunt dit Sir Piers, ses heirs et ses assignes del dit Sir James a terme de la vie la dite dame Eve. Rendaunt pures chescun an a dit Sir James vint trois livres siz soutz vyt deners desterlings a deux termes etc E si aveigne qe le dit Sir James devie. (No witnesses.) (1st November, 1319)" [NCHS, Vol. 5, p. 224]  
  
With the kind help of Peter Stewart the above translates to, ...agreement between Sir James de Audley on one part and Sir Peter Giffard on the other part, notice that the said Sir James by this writing has granted thefee farm to the said Sir Peter of the third part of the manor of Cold Norton including all its appurtenances without withholding anything in the County of Stafford, which the said Sir James acquired by the gift of lady Eve Doufford for the term of life of the said lady Eve, to have and to hold, the third part of themanor aforesaid and its appurtenances to the aforesaid Sir Peter, his heirsand assigns, of the said Sir James for the term of the life of lady Eve.  
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*With the kind help of Peter Stewart the above translates to, ...agreement between Sir James de Audley on one part and Sir Peter Giffard on the other part, notice that the said Sir James by this writing has granted thefee farm to the said Sir Peter of the third part of the manor of Cold Norton including all its appurtenances without withholding anything in the County of Stafford, which the said Sir James acquired by the gift of lady Eve Doufford for the term of life of the said lady Eve, to have and to hold, the third part of themanor aforesaid and its appurtenances to the aforesaid Sir Peter, his heirsand assigns, of the said Sir James for the term of the life of lady Eve.  
  
Here we see that James held the third part manor by the GIFT of lady  
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*Here we see that James held the third part manor by the GIFT of lady  
 
Eve, not by right as her husband ...."
 
Eve, not by right as her husband ...."

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